Hey Guys,
3K miles ago I installed a Toyota OEM Oil Filter as I usually do when doing an oil change. I noticed at the time that my Toyota specific oil filter wrench/socket was slipping a lot while tightening the filter. (Flush then 3/4 turn). Thought nothing of it.
Today, when doing my oil change, I struggled greatly to get the filter off. I ended up having to lay 2 layers of paper towels over the socket before hammering it onto the filter so I could get enough traction to loosen it. When I finally got it off, there was no stripping of the socket or the ridges of the filter. No marring on the surface. I compared it to my new Toyota OEM Oil filter and they were both the exact same except the ridges/ fluting on the new one were more pronounced. I think I might have gotten unlucky with the old one and I just received one that wasn't formed properly.
Thoughts?
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Posted : October 22, 2020 10:51 pm
You shouldn’t tighten the oil filter using a wrench. It should only be hand tighten and not extremely tight. Just tight and snug so the gasket is not deformed. When you go to remove the filter then it will be manageable to be removed. I have seen those that tighten with a wrench even if it doesn’t seem too tight have real trouble when it comes time to remove that they have to crush the filter to get it to turn.
I hope that helps.
Posted : October 22, 2020 11:13 pm
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I think it's more of a, you shouldn't tighten your oil filter too much past hand tight than a don't use a wrench thing. It's just that if you only use your hand it's impossible to overtighten lol. I honestly just went off what it says on the side of the filter, which is get it flush then turn 3/4. Doesn't take much force.
My struggle getting it off wasn't a tightness thing (unless you consider not being able to take it off by hand only a tightness thing). The filter was just too small for the socket for some reason.
Topic starter
Posted : October 23, 2020 6:41 am
It’s possible there is either a defect with the filter manufacturer or they changed the production slightly to a different size. From what I know most of the Denso filters I have seen are manufactured in Thailand. It’s possible the same filters are manufactured at various places around the world for different markets. Possible that maybe there are some variations.
Posted : October 23, 2020 8:29 am
@dev I just noticed this same thing (filter not grabbed by my filter wrench) when changing a filter on my Spyder last weekend. My filter was OEM from Toyota and made in Thailand. This is the first time this has happened to me.
2007 S2000 (New Formula Red)
2005 Spyders (Two in Paradise Blue Metallic, One Super White)
2004 Tundra SR5 Double Cab (White with 2UZ-FE Engine)
2003 Tundra SR5 Access Cab (Silver Stepside with 2UZ-FE Engine)
2003 Sequoia SR5 (Black with 2UZ-FE Engine)
1970 Olds 442 W30 (Nugget Gold )
Posted : October 25, 2020 1:00 am
@dev I just noticed this same thing (filter not grabbed by my filter wrench) when changing a filter on my Spyder last weekend. My filter was OEM from Toyota and made in Thailand. This is the first time this has happened to me.
Thats interesting. I wonder what is up with that.
Posted : October 25, 2020 9:31 am
We're all these filters directly from Toyota or ordered through another vendor? Since oem parts of all types get counterfeited these days... Figure there might be some knock-off oil filters too.
Regarding oil filter tightness... I've committed my technique to muscle memory. A moderate tighten by hand, just tight enough to not be a problem, and still turns off by hand after 5000+ miles. I'm having to adjust it slightly for the Subaru... Same method resulted in a little oil seepage at the filter. Had to tighten it a bit more, then when it came time to take it off (3000-3750 miles for this engine...) It took everything I had to crank it off by hand. Still doable.... Just a bit more effort. Guess I have to expend more energy at the filter since I don't need to even jack the car up to change my oil. Hah.
Posted : October 29, 2020 1:47 am
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@marsrock7 Mine are bought by the case from AutoNation Toyota in Austin, TX. Yep, that (irregularities) is exactly what I would expect from knockoffs.
2007 S2000 (New Formula Red)
2005 Spyders (Two in Paradise Blue Metallic, One Super White)
2004 Tundra SR5 Double Cab (White with 2UZ-FE Engine)
2003 Tundra SR5 Access Cab (Silver Stepside with 2UZ-FE Engine)
2003 Sequoia SR5 (Black with 2UZ-FE Engine)
1970 Olds 442 W30 (Nugget Gold )
Posted : October 29, 2020 6:38 pm
@desertwanderer well hopefully knockoffs are not finding their way into the dealer supply chains. Quite odd all around.
Posted : October 30, 2020 4:37 pm
Got mine from University Toyota in Morgantown WV.
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Posted : October 31, 2020 11:16 am